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Shambles Duelist Admiral
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| Subject: Gadget build Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:42 pm | |
| Beside the three Gadget's what other cards should go into this deck was thinking of making it more a fusion style instead of a synchro since I've seen they tune well with genex types. But any pointers would be nice so Thanks your pal SHambles | |
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dayvividnerdvillage Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Gadget build Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:48 pm | |
| Gadget built are mainly about Hand advantages.
There are Oppression Gadgets (which is basically negates Special summons at all cost).
Gadgets 2006 (focus on Power advantages and lots of traps)
Cyber Dragon Gadget (with fusions and Chimerach)
Machina Gadgets (with Machina Gearframe and other high powered machines)
Tengu gadgets (which is the abuse of using tengu)
TG gadgets (with tech genius)
The key to a successful gadget deck is the minimum of 15 monster cards and the maximum of 17 monster cards. and all gadget decks except gadget 2006 must have only 2x copies of each gadgets. Your traps varies on how you built your deck, and so are your spells.
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Shambles Duelist Admiral
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| Subject: Re: Gadget build Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:05 am | |
| Intresting I'm only asking because as of right now I only play the ds game but am strongly considering to start playing the card game or missing with them on duelist network | |
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dayvividnerdvillage Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Gadget build Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:52 pm | |
| no wonder, but of course the DS doesn't have some cards at the moment. Like Tengu, and T.G.
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kavasiki Pro Duelist
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| Subject: Re: Gadget build Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:50 pm | |
| - dayvividnerdvillage wrote:
- no wonder, but of course the DS doesn't have some cards at the moment. Like Tengu, and T.G.
And they don't come with TCG exclusivs such as Tengu and Tour Guide. | |
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Sizzle Fish Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Gadget build Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:31 pm | |
| Hmm you could add in some Fortess's and Cyber Dragons for fusing. Though they are mostly sided for other Machine decks.
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Shambles Duelist Admiral
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| Subject: Re: Gadget build Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:35 am | |
| Yea I put in end dragon and double cyber but only put in too poly cards since most of my fusions come off of the y,x and z cards but was just missing around with it as for fun sakes and just trying out new things so thanks for the info. | |
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Sizzle Fish Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Gadget build Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:36 pm | |
| - Shambles wrote:
- Yea I put in end dragon and double cyber but only put in too poly cards since most of my fusions come off of the y,x and z cards but was just missing around with it as for fun sakes and just trying out new things so thanks for the info.
What poly cards are you using? | |
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Shambles Duelist Admiral
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| Subject: Re: Gadget build Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:38 pm | |
| Just polymaterization since I don't really need to use like overload or insta fusion or like any of those other newer fusions card. So just keeping it simple, and this neck is just for fun and to test out stuff but If I was to go more iunto fusions I am thinking about building me an E-hero deck | |
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Sizzle Fish Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Gadget build Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:10 pm | |
| - Shambles wrote:
- Just polymaterization since I don't really need to use like overload or insta fusion or like any of those other newer fusions card. So just keeping it simple, and this neck is just for fun and to test out stuff but If I was to go more iunto fusions I am thinking about building me an E-hero deck
Do you have Future Fusion though? | |
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Shambles Duelist Admiral
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| Subject: Re: Gadget build Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:44 pm | |
| Yea but I have a hard time keeping it out for the two turns or as soon as it comes it just gets removed vile bottomless trap or judgement's or warning so it hard to read when to take the chance to attempt it. | |
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dayvividnerdvillage Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Gadget build Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:12 pm | |
| Any one who depends on a single cards to build a deck already lost before the duel even began. Each and every cards must value the same weight on a drawn hand. That's why Synchro summoned was created because in the past you would have soo many great decks but lots of dead draws. Then they created XYZ because sometimes the field may be left lifeless of move.
2004 to 2008.
Special summon ATK.
2008 to 2011.
Synchro summon ATK, destroy ends.
2011 +
XYZ Summon, ATK, Opponent's turn activate. Or Summon and destroy.
The game you knew has changed drastically, and you got to adapt to the changes.
Decks like E-Heroes doesn't have much values anymore, if they cant Synchro. Fusion wastes hands, unless you can somehow get the materials back.
Think of it this way, if you depend on one monster, have many ways to bring it out with at least 15% of your deck's strategy. Not until you can do that, you will never win a single duel because everyone can stop a Special summon monster from every single deck, and no matter how great that monster is, it won't last a turn so you might as well make a use out of it the turn you summoned it. | |
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Geolight Member of the Month
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| Subject: Re: Gadget build Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:39 am | |
| - dayvividnerdvillage wrote:
- Any one who depends on a single cards to build a deck already lost before the duel even began. Each and every cards must value the same weight on a drawn hand. That's why Synchro summoned was created because in the past you would have soo many great decks but lots of dead draws. Then they created XYZ because sometimes the field may be left lifeless of move.
2004 to 2008.
Special summon ATK.
2008 to 2011.
Synchro summon ATK, destroy ends.
2011 +
XYZ Summon, ATK, Opponent's turn activate. Or Summon and destroy.
The game you knew has changed drastically, and you got to adapt to the changes.
Decks like E-Heroes doesn't have much values anymore, if they cant Synchro. Fusion wastes hands, unless you can somehow get the materials back.
Think of it this way, if you depend on one monster, have many ways to bring it out with at least 15% of your deck's strategy. Not until you can do that, you will never win a single duel because everyone can stop a Special summon monster from every single deck, and no matter how great that monster is, it won't last a turn so you might as well make a use out of it the turn you summoned it. How can that be? My Hero deck is still good and one of the best decks there. | |
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Shambles Duelist Admiral
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| Subject: Re: Gadget build Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:30 am | |
| That's true and I don't depend on just one card it's as I said I just came up with this build just to play around and not even planning on using it against other people. | |
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dayvividnerdvillage Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Gadget build Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:29 pm | |
| - Geolight wrote:
How can that be? My Hero deck is still good and one of the best decks there. Think of it this way lol, anyone who sees a face up Stratos will never ATK it with a higher power. Most likely they think 2 things. "He's running a Gemini deck" or "he has Super Polymerization". This is my updated hero deck to the now meta. Similar as a Dragunity deck. 2x Cyber Dragon 1x D.D. Warrior Lady 2x Effect Veiler 3x Elemental Hero Neos Alius 1x Elemental Hero Stratos 1x Elemental Hero Voltic 1x Honest 1x Morphing Jar 2x Snowman Eater 2x Thunder King Rai-Oh 1x Dark Hole 2x E - Emergency Call 3x Fusion Gate 1x Future Fusion 3x Gemini Spark 1x Heavy Storm 1x Miracle Fusion 1x Monster Reborn 2x Mystical Space Typhoon 1x Reinforcement of the Army 2x Super Polymerization 3x Terraforming 1x Hero Blast 1x Royal Decree 1x Trap Stun 2x Elemental Hero Absolute Zero 1x Elemental Hero Gaia 1x Elemental Hero Great Tornado 1x Elemental Hero Neos Knight 1x Elemental Hero Nova Master 3x Elemental Hero The Shining 1x Ally of Justice Catastor 1x Black Rose Dragon 1x Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier 1x Scrap Dragon 1x Stardust Dragon 1x Trishula, Dragon of the Ice barrier VS 2x Elemental Hero Sparkman 1x Card Trooper 3x Cyber Valley 1x Elemental Hero Bladedge 1x Elemental Hero Necroshade 1x Elemental Hero Prisma 1x Elemental Hero Stratos 1x Elemental Hero Wildheart 1x Elemental Hero Woodsman 2x King of the Swamp 1x Morphing Jar 1x Sangan 2x E - Emergency Call 1x Future Fusion 1x Heavy Storm 2x Miracle Fusion 3x Mystical Space Typhoon 2x Parallel World Fusion 2x Polymerization 1x Pot of Avarice 1x Reinforcement of the Army 1x Call of the Haunted 3x Reckless Greed 1x Solemn Judgment 2x Solemn Warning 1x Starlight Road 1x Torrential Tribute 2x Elemental Hero Absolute Zero 2x Elemental Hero Darkbright 1x Elemental Hero Necroid Shaman 2x Elemental Hero Plasma Vice 2x Elemental Hero Shining Flare Wingman 1x Elemental Hero Shining Phoenix Enforcer 1x Elemental Hero The Shining 2x Elemental Hero Thunder Giant 1x Elemental Hero Wildedge 1x Stardust Dragon Deck One has possibly to both Synchro summon and Fusion summon. Deck two only fuse, and wastes hands. Even though deck 2 has a High Ratio of OTK, most likely if the player drew 2 or more Recless Greed and the opponent goes on so so on monsters and no Heavy traps like Torrential, Warnings, Mirror Force etc. Deck one also has back up fusion because the whole strategy is focused on Fusion Gate with Stratos and any Random Lights to get Elemental Hero The Shining. Then if it's destroyed you get 1-Up getting an extra card and you may draw a different card other than monster the next turn, while deck two only focuses on ATK, special summoned. If a card is used as Materials in deck 2 they are gone, and the player has to either wait for Miracle Fusion, and sometimes it's dead draw when Drawing Parallel World Fusion because they have to remove things from play first. And wait before activating it because obviously activating Miracle fusion count as a Special Summon. So likely deck 2 will take 3 or more turns before playing any heavy cards and when facing aggressive players, they start ATK you with Tengu, even XYZ and Synchro summon Steel Roach to prevent you special summoned. This is what I meant of a E-Hero deck not having values anymore. Both decks are equally build and deck 2 has a nice balance hero fusion with Sparkman and Wildheart theme, but facing people that knows how to duel, they will all run top decks. Lightsworn, Fairy Hyperion, Synchro Monster, X-Sabers, Gadgets (this deck get better now XYZ is available), ETC. You wont stand a chance because the strategy you used to use died ages ago. You may win on very bad hand circumstances, but I guaranteed you, you will be staring at your cards while your opponent make his moves.
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Sizzle Fish Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Gadget build Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:19 pm | |
| - Shambles wrote:
- Yea but I have a hard time keeping it out for the two turns or as soon as it comes it just gets removed vile bottomless trap or judgement's or warning so it hard to read when to take the chance to attempt it.
Future Fusion is still worth it most of the time. | |
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DarkestDion Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Gadget build Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:30 am | |
| I used to run Oppression Gadgets back then, it was pretty awesome. People complained to me because I used too many traps... =( The great thing bout gadgets is that they avoid Bottomlesses, and idk how they fare today. :/
It was either that, or I run Anti-Meta that uses Wanghu. So long I didn't played... | |
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Sizzle Fish Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Gadget build Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:11 pm | |
| Gadgets still have many other competitive variants today. You could try some of those. (: | |
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Shambles Duelist Admiral
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| Subject: Re: Gadget build Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:29 am | |
| That is true and there are not of uses they have it just depends on the play style of the user using them. So I feel that there are so many different uses for them that it is just on how do you feel about them. | |
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dayvividnerdvillage Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Gadget build Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:45 am | |
| you lost me on "uses" | |
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Sizzle Fish Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Gadget build Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:08 pm | |
| What do you mean David?
Didn't lose me. | |
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Shambles Duelist Admiral
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| Subject: Re: Gadget build Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:29 am | |
| Lots of ways to play using them in different styles of decks? | |
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Sizzle Fish Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Gadget build Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:18 pm | |
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