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RenRei00 Administrator
Number of posts : 1017 5Ds WC 2011 FC : Retired Special Awards : Date Joined : 2008-12-17
| Subject: Elemental HyperBeams or Recoil Attacks Thu May 28, 2009 3:11 pm | |
| Which one do you perfer either Recharing attacks or Recoil Attacks
Example of both verisons of attacks:
Elemental Hyper Beams: - Roar Of Time (Dragon) - Hydro Cannon (Water) - Blast Burn (Fire) - Frenzy Plant (Grass) - Hyper Beam (Normal) - Giga Impact (Normal)
Recoil attacks: - Brave Bird (Flying) - Double Edge (Normal) - Head Smash (Rock) [Note: Damage 150, same as a hyperbeam move but a recoiling move] - Take Down (Normal) - Flare Blitz (Fire) - Volt Tackle - Psycho Boost
I personally have to go with Elemental HyperBeams attacks because even though you lose a turn of an attack, at least you don't take damage after the attack was launched and not to mention they deal 150 damage per launch of the attack.
*NOTE: I changed Recharging attack to Elemental HyperBeams.*
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Shiki Star Duelist
Number of posts : 1624 Age : 115 5Ds WC 2011 FC : 0474-9581-2060 Date Joined : 2009-01-19
| Subject: Re: Elemental HyperBeams or Recoil Attacks Thu May 28, 2009 4:47 pm | |
| Recharge for me. I believe it goes away if you give the poke a "Power Herb" If you give it overheat or such, if you give it a "White Herb" then, the -Sp.Atk will be like it never happened. | |
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Yami Kevin Star Duelist
Number of posts : 641 Age : 27 5Ds WC 2011 FC : 3739-1615-2365 Special Awards : Date Joined : 2009-02-22
| Subject: Re: Elemental HyperBeams or Recoil Attacks Thu May 28, 2009 7:31 pm | |
| i like the recharge attacks more too they also look way cooler in battle and are more powerfull | |
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Shikamaru Pro Duelist
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| Subject: Re: Elemental HyperBeams or Recoil Attacks Thu May 28, 2009 11:22 pm | |
| - Shiki wrote:
- Recharge for me. I believe it goes away if you give the poke a "Power Herb" If you give it overheat or such, if you give it a "White Herb" then, the -Sp.Atk will be like it never happened.
I think Power Herb only works with charging moves like Solarbeam, Skull Bash, Sky Attack, etc. And back on topic, I'd actually prefer recoil attacks. Recoil moves deal damage to you, but a recharging move makes you vulnerable. So either way, you'll still take damage. But recharge is worse because your opponent can set up a combination (Dragon Dance, Swords Dance, Agility, or a Status/Support move) and crush your entire team. A recoil move allows constant movement, and therefore gives your Pokemon more of a chance to sweep. A good example would be an Infernape choosing Flare Blitz over Blast Burn. If said Infernape used Blast Burn, although it still ko-ed the opponent, he is immobile and therefore vulnerable to be struck by one of it's many weaknesses. Think of it this way, would you rather take a little damage (that could be healed with Leftovers or Shell Bell) from a recoil attack, or would you rather take heavy (perhaps fatal) damage from an attack that is strong against your Pokemon? Sure recharging attacks are stronger, but as stated before, they leave you immobile, thus letting your opponent set up a strategy. And the extra power is minimal. There's no need to be greedy with your power. An attack that does 150 damage (Blast Burn) is only slightly better than one that does 120 damage (Flare Blitz). And both attacks would most likely be boosted by the Same-Type-Attack-Bonus (STAB) if used properly. So all in all, competitively, recoil attacks are better. But when it comes to attack animation, recharging attacks got recoil attacks beat. | |
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Light0fTwilight Star Duelist
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| Subject: Re: Elemental HyperBeams or Recoil Attacks Fri May 29, 2009 10:18 am | |
| Recoil. I don't like to wait a turn and they often don't take almost any HP at all. | |
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ezzie Duelist Admiral
Number of posts : 117 Age : 28 5Ds WC 2011 FC : 1762 9755 4918 Date Joined : 2009-03-04
| Subject: Re: Elemental HyperBeams or Recoil Attacks Sun May 31, 2009 3:15 pm | |
| I prefer recoil. I hate not being able to make a move. Recharge moves also slow the battle a bit as well. That's what I think | |
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Vane1 Pro Duelist
Number of posts : 498 Age : 31 5Ds WC 2011 FC : 0387-7319-9811 Special Awards : Date Joined : 2008-09-28
| Subject: Re: Elemental HyperBeams or Recoil Attacks Sun May 31, 2009 7:13 pm | |
| Recoil, because it gives you more options next turn | |
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daniel100 Star Duelist
Number of posts : 674 Age : 32 5Ds WC 2011 FC : 5413-0150-8212 Date Joined : 2008-11-03
| Subject: Re: Elemental HyperBeams or Recoil Attacks Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:18 am | |
| id have to go with recoil as well cause i hate having to recharge it gives the opponent a free shot | |
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dasean010 Duelist Admiral
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| Subject: Re: Elemental HyperBeams or Recoil Attacks Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:12 am | |
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Phantom2o Ghost Data
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| Subject: HEY Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:14 am | |
| CHECK OUT MY POKEMON THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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Yami Kevin Star Duelist
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| Subject: Re: Elemental HyperBeams or Recoil Attacks Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:40 pm | |
| first learn how to turn off caps | |
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RenRei00 Administrator
Number of posts : 1017 5Ds WC 2011 FC : Retired Special Awards : Date Joined : 2008-12-17
| Subject: Re: Elemental HyperBeams or Recoil Attacks Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:58 am | |
| - Shikamaru wrote:
- Shiki wrote:
- Recharge for me. I believe it goes away if you give the poke a "Power Herb" If you give it overheat or such, if you give it a "White Herb" then, the -Sp.Atk will be like it never happened.
A recoil move allows constant movement, and therefore gives your Pokemon more of a chance to sweep. A good example would be an Infernape choosing Flare Blitz over Blast Burn. If said Infernape used Blast Burn, although it still ko-ed the opponent, he is immobile and therefore vulnerable to be struck by one of it's many weaknesses.
That is true, however you can return that Pokemon back to its PokeBall and you can call something else out and let it recharge in its PokeBall and re-use that same Pokemon later on. | |
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Yami Kevin Star Duelist
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| Subject: Re: Elemental HyperBeams or Recoil Attacks Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:15 am | |
| uhh what are you talking about?? pokemkn games or the anime? | |
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RenRei00 Administrator
Number of posts : 1017 5Ds WC 2011 FC : Retired Special Awards : Date Joined : 2008-12-17
| Subject: Re: Elemental HyperBeams or Recoil Attacks Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:09 pm | |
| - Yami Kevin wrote:
- uhh what are you talking about?? pokemkn games or the anime?
both if you set ur DS setting to Battle Scene "On" you should be able to return your Pokemon back to its PokeBall after you launched an Elemental HyperBeam. However the HyperBeam has to make it faint in order to let it return back to its PokeBall. This is a video I made using my Palkia against GYM Leader Gardenia in Pokemon Platinum as an example the video is now dead xD
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Yami Kevin Star Duelist
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| Subject: Re: Elemental HyperBeams or Recoil Attacks Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:12 am | |
| i didnt know that it would work in ingame too bad it wont work on multiplayer or battle frontier | |
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Choucho Pro Duelist
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| Subject: Re: Elemental HyperBeams or Recoil Attacks Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:30 am | |
| Volt Tackle for recoil isn't bad D:... although I usually avoid recharge attacks unless I know I can one hit XD or so. | |
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Hysamacc Duelist Admiral
Number of posts : 240 Age : 32 5Ds WC 2011 FC : 3137-4356-2250 Date Joined : 2009-08-07
| Subject: Re: Elemental HyperBeams or Recoil Attacks Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:43 am | |
| For the most part I go with recharge Cuz I don't like hurting my pokemon Also there are time's when recoil does more damage then the other pokemon | |
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ZeroHero Pro Duelist
Number of posts : 480 Age : 32 5Ds WC 2011 FC : 2579-1318-6605 Date Joined : 2009-08-03
| Subject: Re: Elemental HyperBeams or Recoil Attacks Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:51 am | |
| Recoil. As said before, little damage > lose a turn. | |
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InfinitySlayer Star Duelist
Number of posts : 1036 Age : 28 5Ds WC 2011 FC : 1806-3968-9281 Date Joined : 2009-08-05
| Subject: Re: Elemental HyperBeams or Recoil Attacks Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:39 am | |
| I agree with Zero, I'd rather use a powerful attack and not miss a turn. I use Life Orb on my sweepers so I don't mind about recoil anyways. | |
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maestro Novice Duelist
Number of posts : 43 Age : 36 5Ds WC 2011 FC : 047436778174 Date Joined : 2009-11-21
| Subject: Re: Elemental HyperBeams or Recoil Attacks Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:01 pm | |
| I rather Recoil Attacks, I ´ve seen defeat an entire team with Recoil Attacks | |
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Skevengal Star Duelist
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| Subject: Re: Elemental HyperBeams or Recoil Attacks Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:57 pm | |
| - Hysamacc wrote:
- For the most part I go with recharge
Cuz I don't like hurting my pokemon
Also there are time's when recoil does more damage then the other pokemon Recoil moves deal a percent amount of damage, to the user, so if it does not do much damage you do not take much damage. The percent or fraction is like either 1/3 or 1/4 depending on the move 1/3 in most cases. Also, Recoil attacks are much more efficient that Recharge moves. Giving your opponent an extra turn is horrible. They could set up with either Entry Hazards, or Calm Mind, or Status inducing effects, which will turn out horribly for your pokes if combined with something like Sleep...that just stinks...In-Game, go all out with Recharge moves, yes it it possible to switch out after OHKOing like a Gym Leader's poke, and then switch into another Pokemon that will use a Recharge move and simply Recycle. | |
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Sizzle Fish Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Elemental HyperBeams or Recoil Attacks Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:00 pm | |
| Elememental Hyper Beams, because there so much more awsome. Terrible or not. | |
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Skevengal Star Duelist
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| Subject: Re: Elemental HyperBeams or Recoil Attacks Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:51 pm | |
| - Sizzle Fish wrote:
- Elememental Hyper Beams, because there so much more awsome.
Terrible or not. Yes, I do suppose they have some awesome graphics especially with Black and White, wow but, competitively...meh :p | |
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